OOC II

[sulldawga]

Also, when I combine the ogre XP with the troll XP, I get over 6,000 total so Marodin is up to level 4.

Hook me up with a Hit Die roll, please, TK.

[frobozz]

Chain Mail: There are actually 2 suits, one from the troll and one from the cube. One is identified (cube) and one is not (troll). I think we have 3 PCs with expressed interest in these suits (Lanny, Bregalad, Meagnor). Did I miss anyone? I believe the appeal here is scout-like mobility with the protection (or approximate protection) of plate mail.

Sword+3: I agree that Thordin has the best case for this weapon. However, he should expect to be teased mercilessly for the fact that he has given up a dwarven blade in exchange for an elven blade. Thordin is developing quite nicely into the group's top fighter, so we should let him excel in that role and really take the lead in combat situations.

Branches of the Mother Tree: Lanny is happy for Bregalad to carry the branches and is willing to help Bregalad with crafting the magical arrows.

What Next?: Lanny is interested in getting back to Threshold asap to take on Elwyn, but he does not mind stopping at the tower since it is on the way back.

Studying: Lanny will continue to train Bregalad and Meagnor on Magic Missile.

gp per PC: If y'all don't mind, let's wait until we get to a Moneychanger's Guild location and can cash in before doing the division. Right now it is all recorded as group treasure on the Treasure List.

@TK: There was 430 gp (from first 8 ogres - please see Treasure List) that does not appear to have been counted towards the group's total XP. To keep things simple, perhaps we could just use this amount for a group donation to help the elves rebuild their village? If not, Lanny is happy to make his own personal donation to the elves.

[frobozz]

I went looking for a monster and treasure XP count for the rats, geckos, and troll because I don't remember seeing a breakdown that included Semele.

I see that the monster XP was 920, which makes 19 half-shares of 48.42 each.

I think the treasure was four pieces of jewelry worth 15,000 gp. That would make 19 half-shares of 789.47.

The total for a PC would be 1675.78. But on the Treasure/XP thread, the haul for Thaumont 12 is 1713.62. What am I missing?

Check the posts from OOC I, Pages 39-40. The short answer is that before TK set the new XP rule for henchmen, it seems that Semele had been given a full share of monster XP (page 39) and a 1/4 share of treasure XP (page 40). This probably accounts for your discrepancy, since you used 1/2 shares in your accounting, both for monster XP and treasure XP.

[thirdkingdom]

Yes, pleas include the 430 gp from the other ogres in the XP calculations. I had forgotten about that. Lanny is correct about the henchman division; Dark Dungeons does not specify, but 1/2 combat XP is the recommended share of XP in B/X. Also, it seems as if I neglected to award XP for the treasure found in the troll's den.

It should be:
7500+6000+1500=15000.
15000/37 quartershares=405.4 for Semele
1621.6 per PC.

Round up decimals (as per normal, .5 or above) after any XP boni are applies. This was my fault, XP from the treasure should have been awarded in Eagle's Nest.


Marodin XP: (1d6=6).

[thirdkingdom]

I will be moving to the next day this afternoon, which is when I assume you guys will be moving on. I'm still not clear what y'all want to do; still waiting on a couple of people to weigh in. Guys, please state your preferences boldly and clearly! I do not want to see posts stating you're okay with whatever; that is not helpful!
So far, if I am counting properly, we have two solid votes for the orcs, one for the tower and one for heading back to Threshold to deal with Elwyn promptly.

Meagnor did put some questions to the elves, which I have yet to answe but shall address today. FWIW, the elves have no additional information to share about the Tower.

[riftstone]

Orcs then tower, I think.

[Makofan]

Jake's vote is for the tower

[frobozz]

@TK: We actually already received that 1621.6 per person treasure XP from the caves (see OOC I Page 40). It is part of the XP amount under "Thaumont 12" on the Treasure List.

@All: The additonal 430 gp adds the following per person treasure XP:
Semele: 11.62 XP + bonuses
PCs: 46.48 XP + bonuses

I'll adjust the total amount on the Treasure List.

@TK: Just to clarify, Lanny's vote (like Tratiln's) is tower first, Elwyn and Bargle second.

I'm about to hit the road for the Smoky Mountains, so I will be offline the rest of the day!

[zebediah]

Yes, pleas include the 430 gp from the other ogres in the XP calculations.

That will be 11.62 quartershare or 46.48 xp per PC.

Drudsa will finish studying Invisibility before moving back to his unfinished spells, that's his main focus at this time.

As for what next:

Drudsa voted for the tower.

Bregalad is interested both fighting the orcs (1st choice) and exploring the tower (second choice)

Preferences for next adventures: 1-Tower 2-Orcs 3-Fountains.

Orcs then tower, I think.

Marodin would like to conquer the orcs and win the shield but he's ok with the tower if that's what everyone else wants.

Saul is curious about the tower they passed and asks around about it

Jake's vote is for the tower

@TK: Just to clarify, Lanny's vote (like Tratiln's) is tower first, Elwyn and Bargle second.

Tratiln thinks for a moment when the party is down together. Perhaps we should head to the tower then back to Threshold. We did promise those people we would hunt down Bargle and Elwyn. Plus, some of us need to stock up on a few items, like a new shield he says, looking at his arm where his shield used to be. I do want to explore that tower first though, since it only makes sense to do so now.

So that's 6 votes for the tower, 3 to the orcs.

edited to include Bouv's quote

[thirdkingdom]

Thanks everyone -- off to the tower we go! Big thanks to zebediah and frobozz for keeping me straight.

[riftstone]

Thordin would prefer to finish his training with sword before going off for more adventures.

[thirdkingdom]

Thordin would prefer to finish his training with sword before going off for more adventures.

In that case you guys are looking at another full day of practice before Marodin/Thordin advance. I have assumed that due to hunting, getting the elves set up, etc. everyone has had 4 hours this day to practice/study. A full 8 hours will be available the following day.

[Bouv]

Thordin would prefer to finish his training with sword before going off for more adventures.

In that case you guys are looking at another full day of practice before Marodin/Thordin advance. I have assumed that due to hunting, getting the elves set up, etc. everyone has had 4 hours this day to practice/study. A full 8 hours will be available the following day.

Tratiln is ok spending an extra day resting/recouping/training/studying. We did push ourselves a bit to get here and a couple of us are shaken by the events so it only makes sense we would want a little down time to recover. If that is the case, Tratiln will continue to study Levitate and will memorize "Sleep & Rainbow Attack" for his spells.

[rremedio]

XP updated (still level 1). I'll update encumbrance once I'm back home tonight.

[thirdkingdom]

Yes, pleas include the 430 gp from the other ogres in the XP calculations. I had forgotten about that. Lanny is correct about the henchman division; Dark Dungeons does not specify, but 1/2 combat XP is the recommended share of XP in B/X. Also, it seems as if I neglected to award XP for the treasure found in the troll's den.

It should be:
7500+6000+1500=15000.
15000/37 quartershares=405.4 for Semele
1621.6 per PC.

Round up decimals (as per normal, .5 or above) after any XP boni are applies. This was my fault, XP from the treasure should have been awarded in Eagle's Nest.


Marodin XP: (1d6=6).

Ignore the above, please. It has been pointed out to me that XP has already been awarded.

@sulldawga. The link should read "Marodin's HP".

[sulldawga]

I also am in favor of waiting another day, if that means Marodin gets to level before we move on.

Just so I'm clear, henchmen get 0.5 shares of monster XP and 0.25 shares of treasure XP (and actual treasure). Correct?

Is there any chance we can have treasure and monster XP posted in shares, so I can figure out what Semele's share is? When the overall numbers for PCs are posted, I have no idea what portion Semele should get.

I would do it myself but some posts are in IC, some are in OC, some are in the Kill List and I'm having trouble keeping everything straight.

[sulldawga]

Ok, if I have everything sorted out correctly, it would look like this.

For monster XP, the total from the troll, et al, was 920 and the total from the ogres, et al, was 2,300. A total of 3,220, divided by 19 half-shares, equals 169.47.

Each PC gets 338.94 and Semele gets 169.47.

For treasure XP, the total from the troll was 15,430 and the total from the ogres was 8,800. A total of 24,230, divided by 37 quarter-shares, equals 654.86.

Each PC gets 2,619.44 and Semele gets 654.86.

A total of 2,958.38 XP per PC and a total of 824.33 XP for Semele.

The Treasure/XP thread says the total for PCs should be 2,953.55. Where did I screw up?

[Finglas]

Tratiln thinks for a moment when the party is down together. Perhaps we should head to the tower then back to Threshold. We did promise those people we would hunt down Bargle and Elwyn.....

I'd like to preface my post by saying that I think we have a cool group of people playing in this campaign, and an interesting mix of characters with varying and colorful personalities! So, please do not take this next part as an argument from me.

It's just that Bregalad needs are a strong motivation to hunt down any human: vengeance is never a motivation for the elf; and he has a big, big problem with hunting, hurting, or killing humans, unless it's in self defense. And he does not recall ever making a promise to hunt down Elwyn or Bargle (and he takes his promises pretty seriously).

If Bregalad could just be given an idea he could hold onto, then he would fully support the Elwyn/Bargle "mission".

Thanks!

[thirdkingdom]

Honestly, I am not sure where the mistake is. frobozz has been doing a great job tracking everything, so I am content to use his numbers. Not that I think you're wrong, sulldawga, but all these numbers are making my head hurt.

Here is what I would like to do in the future.

I will do the math breakdown for monster and treasure XP in the appropriate OOC thread and link to that post in the Calendar thread that I am keeping, on the specific day that XP was allotted. I am keeping track of monster XP in the "Kills" thread, for my own benefit as much as anyone else's, and will continue to do so. I will include a link from the relevant OOC post in the appropriate post in the "Kills" thread.

Are there any suggestions for keeping it cleaner?

[Bouv]

Tratiln thinks for a moment when the party is down together. Perhaps we should head to the tower then back to Threshold. We did promise those people we would hunt down Bargle and Elwyn.....

I'd like to preface my post by saying that I think we have a cool group of people playing in this campaign, and an interesting mix of characters with varying and colorful personalities! So, please do not take this next part as an argument from me.

It's just that Bregalad needs are a strong motivation to hunt down any human: vengeance is never a motivation for the elf; and he has a big, big problem with hunting, hurting, or killing humans, unless it's in self defense. And he does not recall ever making a promise to hunt down Elwyn or Bargle (and he takes his promises pretty seriously).

If Bregalad could just be given an idea he could hold onto, then he would fully support the Elwyn/Bargle "mission".

Thanks!

I'm pretty sure Tratiln made that promise during the festival... And Trailn doesn't see it as hunting so much as a police officer going after a criminal. They are wanted in connection with a double homicide and possible conspiracy to overthrow those in power and those in power want them brought in for questioning. Tratiln is upset that a beloved member fo the community was killed but isn't out for vengence himself.

Plus, it helps make them famous (bring in criminals) which he enjoys.

*EDIT* Yup, Tratiln said it:

Tratiln will take a deep bow after the Baron's speech. We are truly humbled to be able to help such a great people as those of Threshold. Let it be known we will not rest until Bargle is brought to justice.