Discussion (out of character thread)

[CarrieVS]

Between Earnan, Erikir, and the Goblins, if water can be found then we have the people to find it. Actually, the Dawi may know of any cisterns the watchforts had; even they need water in the driest of times.

I think that with the amount of labour involved in fetching enough water to drench a piece of ground, we could probably have cleared the dead grass from a larger area.

Bare earth won’t burn and the grass isn’t likely to grow back until the land becomes less dry.

[Leitz]

On the jewelry, is there anything anyone particularly wants? We need to get the magical items identified, and then see who wants what. The Dawi stuff for the Dawi, and hope Ladki's connections issues get resolved?

With at least three people who know their way around components, it looks like we'll keep as much of the dragon as can be put to use. The Dawi can probably make great armor, weapons, and sheilds of the non-alchemical parts.

Anything else we need to talk about?

[Leitz]

It would benefit JJh to have the dragon head.

[Leitz]

An offer, if it helps. JJh would offer to make Bleakhill the place to do the alchemical work. Darfilla has been building up her tools and supplies, and I'm not sure how much Morwen wants Dawi firesand makers, etc, camping in Raven's Well. If that is what she wants, then no issues from me.

Bleakhill is less populated, in case something goes wrong. Rolton is leading it, and Darfilla wouldn't mind being close to her knight.

[scarik]

JJh will probably want to establish a Workshop on his Domain in any case. There is only so much space at Ravenswell so you will have workflow issues at some point. Plus Lawful Clerics can't use her space so Borav has to go elsewhere anyhow.

A Standard Workshop uses standard rules for its overall effect: It gets a Level for the SD limit it can handle equal to SD^2 * 1000p. This allows a single spellcaster and their assistants to operate at once, with the max number of assistants being the caster's Henchmen number. Spellcasters with Leader thus can run more efficient workspaces. You get +1 per excess limit rating when using a Workshop, so a Level 2 gives +1 to all Level 1 uses, etc.

A more spacious Workshop can be bought to allow more spellcasters to operate. If the space is all general workshop then you pay full price for each one, but if they are specialized then you can have a discount. An Alchemical Lab next to a Forge for instance (the Dawi can foot the bill for the Forge of course) would let both Darfill and Borav work at full speed and get a discount since they can share comment elements between them.

[CarrieVS]

I was in fact going to enquire about whether JJh would let Earnan build a workshop. Since he doesn’t want land of his own but it seems he will be setting up semi-permanent residence at or near Eastfort. (And I have so much money and so little to spend it on that it’s frankly absurd.)

[Leitz]

I was in fact going to enquire about whether JJh would let Earnan build a workshop. Since he doesn’t want land of his own but it seems he will be setting up semi-permanent residence at or near Eastfort. (And I have so much money and so little to spend it on that it’s frankly absurd.)

"Would let" is an easy "Yes!" My only real question is, is it better at Eastfort or Bleakhill? I'm okay either way, and JJh will probably spend coin and make Eastfort an actual village (10K p). Since the builders are still at Eastfort, that might be the place to be. Actually, given the nature of things, Eastfort is probably a better option. Bleakhill is, well, bleak...

I really smiled when you said Earnan knew his way around reagents! Here's the math I have, from Scarik's note above. An SD 1 shop is 1,000 p (Kp), SD2/4Kp, SD3/9Kp, and if we get bold SD4/16Kp. While Darfilla can only do SD2 right now, she has coin and will build a workshop. How much does Earnan want to put in? On a side note, we can probably get Kornel, the Margrave's son, to join now and again. He and Si-woo are getting along. Si-woo kept making reasons Kornel could leave Eastfort at the moment, so he might as well explore the necropolis a little.

The Dawi will probably winter at Eastfort, so the workshop can get going full swing!

[scarik]

Workshops are generally considered chattels so you are best to set up at Eastfort for now and you can always move later if needed.

[CarrieVS]

An SD 1 shop is 1,000 p (Kp), SD2/4Kp, SD3/9Kp, and if we get bold SD4/16Kp. While Darfilla can only do SD2 right now, she has coin and will build a workshop. How much does Earnan want to put in?

Well at the very least 3SD and I can easily afford to run to 4 (but I assume it can be upgraded later when I can use the extra SD?) And if Scarik says it'll count for XP for Earnan (I'm not sure since it's not his own domain) then I'll pay for the whole thing if you'll let me.

[Leitz]

Per scarik:

Hide and Scales: 2 full suits of Heavy Armor, 2 Large shields and 2 capes/mantles. Alternately you could equip a single knight with full armor, shield and barding for a warhorse. You can also make more sets of lighter armor proportionally (2 Heavy can be 3 Well for instance and 2 Well = 3 Decent all with appropriate shields).

I'm happy to discuss this, but the first thought that came to my mind was if Dramm wanted to do the full knight and warhorse thing?

There are two sets of magical Dawi-sized armor in the treasure, so Maggie can handle that. While JJh wouldn't mind armor, the head going into his keep is a big political and social win. A long bone for a banner, maybe a shorter one for Vuird's Jing banner. Smaller bits for his to-be in-laws, as weapons or reagents.

[Leitz]

An SD 1 shop is 1,000 p (Kp), SD2/4Kp, SD3/9Kp, and if we get bold SD4/16Kp. While Darfilla can only do SD2 right now, she has coin and will build a workshop. How much does Earnan want to put in?

Well at the very least 3SD and I can easily afford to run to 4 (but I assume it can be upgraded later when I can use the extra SD?) And if Scarik says it'll count for XP for Earnan (I'm not sure since it's not his own domain) then I'll pay for the whole thing if you'll let me.

I'm happy to let you pay as much as you like! Darfilla has a "duty" owed to JJh, currently at 2,711p. She has been told to use it to build whatever is best for the mage community, so if there are things we can add to the workshop (need scarik input on that) then she can do that. She also has money of her own, and can make magical stuff (Craft Mystic Trinkets).

scarik and I talked, and Darfilla's probably going to spend time learning how to use a one-handed Thunderer. For those of you old enough to remember Bakshi's "Wizards", you know the joy of it.

[scarik]

An SD 1 shop is 1,000 p (Kp), SD2/4Kp, SD3/9Kp, and if we get bold SD4/16Kp. While Darfilla can only do SD2 right now, she has coin and will build a workshop. How much does Earnan want to put in?

Well at the very least 3SD and I can easily afford to run to 4 (but I assume it can be upgraded later when I can use the extra SD?) And if Scarik says it'll count for XP for Earnan (I'm not sure since it's not his own domain) then I'll pay for the whole thing if you'll let me.

It's an Investment so you do get XP. And when Earnan eventually leaves the area and gives it away he gets XP for the gift as well.

[Leitz]

Would there be an adventure, or side quest, to do a recon in force from Lizard Lounge to the gates of Kraka Grak? I see Goblin and Gnome for the first leg, over the plains until the grass dies away. Then Dawi and adventurers in the rest of the way. The result should give us intel for planning over the winter, and beginning the campaign next spring.

If it is an adventure, who wants to go?

[Leitz]

If anyone else is interested in what's going on in Eastfort, the tower should be done shortly, there's an expensive (10,000p!) effort to make an actual township, and plans to upgrade the chapel (5,000p!). This is why JJh never has a lot of money.

[CarrieVS]

This is why JJh never has a lot of money.

Which is also why I'm in desperate search of money pits for Earnan to fill up with all the money that he has no actual need to spend, so I can keep up with you in XP

As for the workshop, Darfilla's welcome to contribute the amount of her obligation, and Earnan will put up the rest. (He also needs a place of his own at Eastfort. I have no intention of crashing on Drotik's sofa for the entire campaign.)

[Leitz]

This is why JJh never has a lot of money.

Which is also why I'm in desperate search of money pits for Earnan to fill up with all the money that he has no actual need to spend, so I can keep up with you in XP

As for the workshop, Darfilla's welcome to contribute the amount of her obligation, and Earnan will put up the rest. (He also needs a place of his own at Eastfort. I have no intention of crashing on Drotik's sofa for the entire campaign.)

Okay, so a couple of questions. Darfilla will put in her 2,711, and you cover the rest. Do you want to go to SD 3 or 4? IIUC you can upgrade as you go, but that's up to scarik. Earnan can certainly put a living spot in if he likes, Darfilla is fun, enthusiastic about her arts, and if Earnan watches human behavior, much less erratic than she was before the latest adventure. It may have something with the knight that has been spending a lot of time with her.

The other thing to thing to think about, and Darfilla will mention this to Earnan, is that JJh has floated the idea of a college at Eastfort. A place mages can come to learn, and get real world experience at the same time. As far as anyone knows, there's no place like that on the map at all; probably a couple weeks travel over the pass to the Duke's lands, at the closest. I have no real idea on how it would look, but it is on my mind. Not just magic, but the Goblins are great builders but poorly educated. JJh would like to resolve that, and help the Goblins build their home up.

[tibbius]

All of JJh's stuff is very Lawful and for Dramm it's quite inspiring to see someone so intent on Good Ordering of affairs.

Barnaby is a bit stuck for how to make a doleful ballad or rousing chant out of the nascent blueprints for a mage college, but maybe a bawdy drinking song or two will become popular among the students … if he starts writing now …

[Leitz]

Barnaby is a bit stuck for how to make a doleful ballad or rousing chant out of the nascent blueprints for a mage college, but maybe a bawdy drinking song or two will become popular among the students … if he starts writing now …

Keep in mind that Eastfort has at least two master brewing families, plus a bunch of Dawi who comment on how good the local offerings are. This is definitely a college town in the making!

[scarik]

I'm off tomorrow so I will catch up then.

[scarik]

Would there be an adventure, or side quest, to do a recon in force from Lizard Lounge to the gates of Kraka Grak? I see Goblin and Gnome for the first leg, over the plains until the grass dies away. Then Dawi and adventurers in the rest of the way. The result should give us intel for planning over the winter, and beginning the campaign next spring.

If it is an adventure, who wants to go?

With the time for the Dragon to be handled and some much needed rest (since you aren't automatons even with Toughness to help you soldier on) its July now.

If you want to do some significant recon of the area there are rules for that in Domains at War we can use. Earnan spotted plenty of wildlife, including Wargs, Hippogriffs and giant spiders to the north of the Old Road on his walkabout.

Also there is still a ghoul lair at Bleakhill that someone ought to handle.

Which is also why I'm in desperate search of money pits for Earnan to fill up with all the money that he has no actual need to spend, so I can keep up with you in XP

As for the workshop, Darfilla's welcome to contribute the amount of her obligation, and Earnan will put up the rest. (He also needs a place of his own at Eastfort. I have no intention of crashing on Drotik's sofa for the entire campaign.)

You can easily build a Level 3 Workshop by spending the difference after Darfilla's contribution. 6289p covers that.

It will take 9 weeks to build and stock the workshop. This will have it just finished in time for Autumn so you'll be able to use it for 3rd level magic then. You can use it while its partially built. After a wekkk its available for Level 1 and after 4 for Level 2.

Okay, so a couple of questions. Darfilla will put in her 2,711, and you cover the rest. Do you want to go to SD 3 or 4? IIUC you can upgrade as you go, but that's up to scarik. Earnan can certainly put a living spot in if he likes, Darfilla is fun, enthusiastic about her arts, and if Earnan watches human behavior, much less erratic than she was before the latest adventure. It may have something with the knight that has been spending a lot of time with her.

Just wanted to ping you on this.