"Endgame: OOC Planning Discussion"

[Tiglath]

Can Jess see the falxman engaging Freddie?

No. She can see Freya (most likely) engaging him but her LOS to target always hits the tree just left of the word POOL.

King exchanged fire with Black 4, perhaps she has LOS to his companions?

She can see Black 1, 2 or 5

Jess could move and shoot but snapshooting at -2 with her cumulative wound penalties (another -2?) is going to be problematic.

[The Bindoner]

Jess isn't moving, unless she has to.

[shaidar]

I'm confused what round we're in, some people are getting a second round of shots off before I've had one?

[Tiglath]

Still resolving Round 2.

So Frank and Jess are still owed actions.

But folk are keen!

Don't worry all will move forward appropriately!

[shaidar]

I'm sure it will, I trust the GM

Lots of PCs and when the round gets effectively split in two I get a little confused. I'll try harder

[Tiglath]

No worries, I'm taking it steady because positions are critical due to the LOS restrictions.

So there is definitely an element of "hurry up and wait"!

However, we're doing fine so far!

[gurusql]

Surroundings question, there is what appears to be a bench, one square west and one more square northwest of Kit's position.

1. What is the bench made out of?
2. Is the bench bolted down or would it be easy to flip?

For example a concreate bench with no bolts could be flipped for cover, but a wooden bench with metal frame that is bolted down would not provide much (if any cover). Just thinking about options for Round 3.

Thank you for walking me through other combat steps

[Tiglath]

The benches are stone and "flippable" if you are stronger than 8+

Flipping will cost 3AP

As to Round 3 who knows?

The insurgents have taken a hammering and will be testing morale shortly!

[Tiglath]

Thank you for walking me through other combat steps

No worries at all - now it all hopefully makes sense!

[gurusql]

Just want to understand if I am viewing the LOS correctly or perhaps with to much wishful thinking.

1. It looks like that if Kit can shoot along the north line of the hex he is in then he can shoot W9 (which would clear Freddie and Freya to target lots of targets that no one else can see).
2. It looks like Kit has an LOS on W2 (perhaps the rocks protect some of the legs?)(I am assuming that W5 have cover from the rocks)

Assuming both of the LOS lines are real, can you snap fire at two targets like that? (e.g. that far apart?)

[shaidar]

I think you can shot two targets like you say

I need confirmation on what Charlie is doing, but I think he's moving westwards.

Franks team has limited options. Moving NW means he won't get a chance to shoot next round, it'll be all runnng and he'll get the way of Jess and Kingy.

So, it's likely they move westwards up to the rocks. As he's right at the bottom of the ma he'd likely have LOS to 6, 7 and possibly 1. Frank (one square above, behind the rocks) would I think have LOS to 6,7,1,2. Charlie, assuming he is one square further up would have LOS of 6,7,2,4 I think. This is this the best option I think but will block Kit from W9.

Of course, the bad guys are likely to move again before Frank & Dog fire. Assuming Frank and Dog don't move then Dog has LOS for 7 and 3 and Frank has LOS for noone and if he moved he would get in the way of Dogs LOS.

So it seems the best option if for Franks team to move forward and then let's see where the bad guys are particularly if Kit doesn't move and fires at 2 and 9

[BackworldTraveller]

A 90 degree turn is 1 AP if stationary; shooting is 3 AP. That leaves 2AP...aim?

[Tiglath]

Just want to understand if I am viewing the LOS correctly or perhaps with to much wishful thinking.

1. It looks like that if Kit can shoot along the north line of the hex he is in then he can shoot W9 (which would clear Freddie and Freya to target lots of targets that no one else can see).
2. It looks like Kit has an LOS on W2 (perhaps the rocks protect some of the legs?)(I am assuming that W5 have cover from the rocks)

Assuming both of the LOS lines are real, can you snap fire at two targets like that? (e.g. that far apart?)

The answer has to be yes!

KISS applies and ruling otherwise would be a nightmare!

However, "closest threat" probably applies as a target priority (but, in fairness, not an enforceable rule).

[BackworldTraveller]

#9, your time is up!

[shaidar]

Tig, what is Charlie's new location? Frank has his gauss Rifle, not ACR, but I don't think it'd made any difference

I deliberately left that vague to give you some control over him!

He's notionally going forwards on the diagonal but effectively has six squares and a snap counting half of Rd 2 and this Round 3 or three squares and a grenade! Frank will see that a smoke greande in the path/gap between the "starfish trees/palms" (just above the word POOL) and the wood will completely "blind" those in the streambed to his squad.

Please excuse my tactical naivety, this would block them from Frank and Kit and force us to move northwards this round to attack from around the central trees next round. If we moved directly forward, Charlie would get two shots at then and Frank and Dog one.

[Tiglath]

It's an option if you wanted to finesse "manoeuvre warfare". You effectively make them move - wasting their AP and forcing them to snap shoot (at net +0) again rather than having 6AP aimed fire (at +2).

In fairness, you will most likely (snap)shoot them to bits this round anyway but they may get some (lucky) payback in the process (but probably not... ).

Snapshots go off before aimed fire...

[Tiglath]

#9, your time is up!

"Alas, poor #9, I knew him, Horatio!"

He's a bit "isolated"...

[shaidar]

OK, have I got the ordering right...

Charlie move 3 squares in round 2, part 2
Round 3, part 1, Charlie starts to prep his grenade, Frank and Dog move forward
Round 3, part 2, Frank and Dog would get a snapshot off before Charlie's grenade?

Of course Frank and Dog would be visible after moving to be shot atby the bad guys too, if they stay stationary, or moved NW they would have cover.

Another question, if Frank and team only move into LOS of the bad guys in the second part of the round do the bad guys only have snap shot as an option, even if they've been aiming in that general direction?

[Tiglath]

The order of things is right but Charlie would need LOS (and line of "Flight") to throw his grenade.

If you expose yourselves at the end of the round... no, that reads OK... you will be vulnerable to (no penalty/6AP) fire from the streambed (unless they've already done something else).

This would go off simultaneously with your move then snap fire.

[shaidar]

Thanks. I think I grasp that

I'll post my actions after a little think. I'm currently leaning towards a move/snap fest and hoping they don't get lucky