OOC II

[MonkeyWrench]

Korok may be intentionally starting a fight...

Fair warning.

[Zhym]

Coming at this game late, I do wonder why the party doesn't just make Sambord its home base. They seem friendlier and much less bossy.

[Keehnelf]

Because Ilfrien tried her level best to kill one of the leaders of Sambord on their first meeting, and she's not the type to let anyone forget that or admit that it was a mistake...

[AleBelly]

Korok may be intentionally starting a fight...

Fair warning.

Well we haven't had a bar fight in this game yet...but that would be an interesting opponent to target...

[Zhym]

Because Ilfrien tried her level best to kill one of the leaders of Sambord on their first meeting, and she's not the type to let anyone forget that or admit that it was a mistake...

Well, shoot. If you're going to let a little thing like that get in the way, how many places could Ilfrien go?

[Keehnelf]

Not many--how do you think she ended up with this group in the first place?

[Zorroroaster]

Tarantino reference. My respect for Illfried just went up measurably.

[Zhym]

Well, shoot. I missed it. What's the reference?

[Marullus]

Pulp Fiction. "Zed's dead, baby."

[Zorroroaster]

Despite his recent attempts at making his magnum opus, as far as I'm concerned Pulp Fiction was really it. Such a film. Non-linear storytelling, great dialogue, looooong single camera shots. It's his best film, in my opinion.

[Zhym]

Pulp Fiction. "Zed's dead, baby."

Oh, yeah! I did notice that. Cool.

[Keehnelf]

Even the characters are more interesting and less like caricatures, though Django was pretty much brilliant. Think that's probably my #2 of his.

[AleBelly]

Despite his recent attempts at making his magnum opus, as far as I'm concerned Pulp Fiction was really it. Such a film. Non-linear storytelling, great dialogue, looooong single camera shots. It's his best film, in my opinion.

I remember watching it when it came out. It was so different from any film I had seen before. It might have been my perspective, but I walked out of the theatre feeling like I had just witnessed something groundbreaking.

[Keehnelf]

I had the same experience. When it came out on video I brought it to my old high school rpg buddies thinking they'd dig it, but all I got was confusion, blank stares, and boredom. In that moment I was really glad I'd moved elsewhere...

[tkrexx]

It was highly confusing at first viewing! It was like, 75% finished before I realized what he was doing, and then it was genius! Haven't seen Django yet, don't like to watch that type of show around the family.

[Keehnelf]

Django is crass and rude, but one of its great merits is that it doesn't flinch from unpretentious presentation of completely historically accurate events that would take place. It's uncomfortable to watch because of how non-grandstanding it is with its historical/social content, and on the other hand TOTALLY grandstanding in terms of the action/revenge movie themes.

But yeah, it's bloody as hell.

[Zhym]

But yeah, it's bloody as hell.

Is there a Tarantino flick to which that does not apply?

[Keehnelf]

But yeah, it's bloody as hell.

Is there a Tarantino flick to which that does not apply?

Jackie Brown was comparatively muted, as (of course) was his contribution to Four Rooms. But pretty much everything else...yeah...

[Zorroroaster]

I dunno, 2nd place is a hard one for me. Reservoir Dogs, Kill Bill and Django are all up there.

[Keehnelf]

I dunno, 2nd place is a hard one for me. Reservoir Dogs, Kill Bill and Django are all up there.

My big beef with Kill Bill (I thought about this a bunch this morning--why I never had a desire to watch Kill Bill after I saw it the second time) is that it's clearly a great script that made for a bizarre movie. It's hyper-minimalist in the actual script and story, relying on set-pieces for the majority of the impact, which is challenging and interesting but feels a bit lazy in execution. Even worse, the aesthetic is designed to be both accessible and "artistically" self-aware, but unfortunately the combination basically causes it to disappear into its own pop-culture reference bellybutton, so it completely fails to become either an artistic or a pop-culture icon apart from vacuous visual allusions to the aforementioned set pieces that pop up occasionally.

It's an artifact, but not exactly art--it's popular for its reliance on spectacle (in my opinion) but satisfies cinema-school kids for its arcane meta-referential aspects and its against-the-stream minimalism. I dunno--I guess these are all art-school concerns too. Lots of people liked it, and I liked it too, but unlike basically every other movie he's made I don't have any interest in seeing it again, which is indicative of something.