I picked up some daggers for throwing, which lets me use my Strength. I figured with no other melee Warriors it was probably best to go melee rather than ranged.
Character Generation
Re: Character Generation
Morvith, Human Wizard, The Western Lands
Ekene Orjee, Xenologist and Imperial Agent, Shadow of the Storm (Traveller MgT2e)
Ekene Orjee, Xenologist and Imperial Agent, Shadow of the Storm (Traveller MgT2e)
Re: Character Generation
@cybersavant -
You might want to consider just the normal Partial Expert class unstead of Wise. You only used the Wise to get 3 skill points and gave up an extra Focus (which gives a skill point) and the Expert ability to get a skill point every level in order to do it. You also are completely unable to fight in your skinchanger form of Puma, because you don't have the Punch skill for unarmed combat, it doesn't have hands and can't use stab, and your unarmed combat only does your normal unarmed damage (1d2).
If you went to Partial Expert, you would get another focus, but lose two of the three skill points from Wise (magic, notice, sneak). If you picked Unarmed Combatant, you would get Punch-0 as a skill, and it would raise your Puma and unarmed damage to 1d6 (1d8 if you raise it to Punch-1) and at Punch-1 your Puma will do shock. (Your Walk like the Wind is an Expert focus pick already, so you can use your second Focus pick for any, to include Unarmed Combatant as a combat focus... you could move your Free Pick of Stab-0 to one of your lost skills or move it here for the Punch-1 benefits which apply to both human and puma forms.)
In short:
Right now your Puma form has BAB +1 unskilled punch -2 Dex +1
- Puma bite: +0 to hit, 1d2+1 damage, no shock
If you switch to Partial Expert. Take Unarmed Combatant, and switch Stab to Punch, you get:
- Puma Bite: +3 to hit, 1d8+2 / 3 Shock AC 15
...as a human he would be a ferocious Brawler when put in a corner and almost as good (and better than he was with your chosen Stab weapons)
- Human Strikes: +2 to hit, 1d8+2 / 3 Shock AC 15
In addition you would (keep sneak-0, i assume), drop Magic-0 and lower Notice-1 to Notice-0, both of which you can get back at level 2.
...you are our party's main guy for Survival and probably notice. And since you are focused on moving as a Puma I assume you want sneak. Gars will be focused on Magic as a skill so we have that, but I am curious that you took knowledge of dwarf runes (Angnir) from your "Know" - that's an interesting implication from your lost past and I have intentionally not had Gars start with that language to let you shine there. [With him having Know and Amnesia as well as a mysterious affinity for mythic dwarf inscription, this can be a useful mechanic - your successes on Int+Know checks become a prompt for the GM to give you knowledge that you now 'remember' as you recover memories in line with your secret past.]
(Alternatively, you can ask the GM to let you not be well-studied and swap Know-0 to get back Notice-1, if that fits your concept better as a naive peasant boy on his Coming of Age quest.)
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Replying to Urson, who PM'd me his PC.
You can change one attribute score to a 14. So you can bring that Charisma score up or possibly move the 10 in Strength to Charisma and put the 14 in Strength. You don't have a melee build, per se, but a high Strength also lets you carry more.
You also get a free Skill in anything. As a Warrior, it may be in your best interest to take Stab-0. Since you have Die Hard, you are definitely going to have the most Hit Points of any PC in the group and they're going to want to stick you up front in any marching order.
Otherwise, Mikhail looks good! Please post him in the Player Characters thread.
You can change one attribute score to a 14. So you can bring that Charisma score up or possibly move the 10 in Strength to Charisma and put the 14 in Strength. You don't have a melee build, per se, but a high Strength also lets you carry more.
You also get a free Skill in anything. As a Warrior, it may be in your best interest to take Stab-0. Since you have Die Hard, you are definitely going to have the most Hit Points of any PC in the group and they're going to want to stick you up front in any marching order.
Otherwise, Mikhail looks good! Please post him in the Player Characters thread.
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Okay, redoing Gear. 180sp instead of a package.sulldawga wrote: ↑Mon Mar 27, 2023 3:25 am I am sure there is some logic to how Crawford designed the rules. They are just not obvious to me at this point. I think the biggest problem I have is that the contents of the Gear Bundles are opaque.
However, the rules say right there "the options below cover all the non-weapon, non-armor gear expected of a particular role" and "the specific contents of each bundle are as broad as the GM finds reasonable for the role". So it gives me liberty to make up my own bundle.
I think a Wilderness Travel Gear bundle would contain a one man tent, a bedroll, a blanket, cooking utensils, a small hammer, a shovel, a waterskin, and a tinder box.
I am also going to make two House Rules. One is that every new PC gets the max 180 sp to start and the other is that a Wilderness Travel Gear bundle is only 40 sp. Encumbrance remains the same (5 enc).
Wilderness Bundle - 40sp
War Robe - 50sp
Metal Shield - 20sp
Staff (long-handled shovel) - 1sp
Rations, 1 week - 5sp
Lantern - 10sp
3 pints oil - 3sp
Writing Kit - 3sp
20 sheets of paper - 2sp
Cartographer's tools (in-game purchase) - 15sp
Mule - 30sp
1 16 sp remaining
Readied items (5 / 6)
- Reinforced Longcoat (war robe, AC 14) (3)
- Small Shield (+1 AC when wearing armor) (1)
- Long-handled Shovel (1)
- Lantern, Tinderbox (1)
- 3 Flasks of Oil - (1)
- Waterskin, 1 gallon (1)
- Writing Kit & 20 sheets of paper - (1)
- Cartographer Tools - (1)
- 1 silver piece
Stowed on Belegroc the Mule (9/15)
- Rations, 1 week - (4)
- Wilderness Bundle (5)
- one man tent
- a bedroll
- a blanket
- cooking utensils
- a small hammer
- a shovel
- a waterskin
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Hey everybody - I'm finally getting my act around to joining this game.
Name: Sleepy
Rolling Attributes: [3d6]=4 [3d6]=9 [3d6]=10 [3d6]=13 [3d6]=13 [3d6]=5
Let's go with:
Strength 13
Dexterity 14 (+1)
Constitution 9
Intelligence 10
Wisdom 5(-1)
Charisma 13
Background: [1d20]=7
Laborer: Work-0
Additional Skills:
Growth: [1d6]=3
+1 Stat = Charisma is now 14
Learning: [1d8]=6
Exert-0
Learning: [1d8]=4
Convince-0
Class: Expert
Masterful Expertise & Quick Learner
Foci:
Choice: Deadeye (Shoot-0)
Non-Combat: Connected (Connect-0)
Outside Interest Skill:
Notice-0
Hit points:
[1d6]=2
Equipment Package: Archer
Name: Sleepy
Rolling Attributes: [3d6]=4 [3d6]=9 [3d6]=10 [3d6]=13 [3d6]=13 [3d6]=5
Let's go with:
Strength 13
Dexterity 14 (+1)
Constitution 9
Intelligence 10
Wisdom 5(-1)
Charisma 13
Background: [1d20]=7
Laborer: Work-0
Additional Skills:
Growth: [1d6]=3
+1 Stat = Charisma is now 14
Learning: [1d8]=6
Exert-0
Learning: [1d8]=4
Convince-0
Class: Expert
Masterful Expertise & Quick Learner
Foci:
Choice: Deadeye (Shoot-0)
Non-Combat: Connected (Connect-0)
Outside Interest Skill:
Notice-0
Hit points:
[1d6]=2
Equipment Package: Archer
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Looks good to me.
I did say in the Interest Check thread that if you rolled exceptionally poorly, I would allow you to change two rolls to 14s. So if you want to change that 5 to a 14, I am ok with it.
You definitely leaned into the random chargen! Note that everyone gets full HP at level 1.
Go ahead and level your PC up to level 2 and then I will insert you into the game!
I did say in the Interest Check thread that if you rolled exceptionally poorly, I would allow you to change two rolls to 14s. So if you want to change that 5 to a 14, I am ok with it.
You definitely leaned into the random chargen! Note that everyone gets full HP at level 1.
Go ahead and level your PC up to level 2 and then I will insert you into the game!
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Note that, after the fact, I allowed everyone to have the full 180 sp to start with, as I was expecting everyone to equip their PC for wilderness adventure a little earlier in life than the rules anticipated.
See the House Rules thread for pricing on things like the Wilderness Travel gear bundle.
See the House Rules thread for pricing on things like the Wilderness Travel gear bundle.
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Got it...This should be corrected then for the low roll, max HP at level 1, and now leveled to 2
Class: Expert, Level 2
Background: Laborer
STR: 13 (+0)
DEX: 14 (+1)
CON: 9 (+0)
INT: 10 (+1)
WIS: 14 (+1)
CHA: 14 (+1)
Skills:
Connect-1
Convince-0
Exert-0
Notice-0
Shoot-0
Sneak-0
Work-0
Languages:
Common
Combat:
Base Attack Bonus: +1
Hit Points: 12 / 12
Armor Class: 13
Weapons:
Large Bow
Hand Axe
Dagger
Saves:
Physical: 14
Evasion: 13
Mental: 13
Luck: 14
Foci:
Deadeye: You have a gift with ranged weapons. While this talent most commonly applies to bows, it is also applicable to thrown weapons or other ranged weapons that can be used with the Shoot skill. For thrown weapons, you can’t use the benefits of the Armsmaster Focus at the same time as Deadeye.
Masterful Expertise: Once per scene, the Expert may reroll any non-combat skill check as an Instant action. This allows the Expert to make a roll and then immediately use this ability if the resulting total isn’t good enough to succeed. In cases where it matters, the better of the two rolls may be used.
Quick Learner: When you advance a character level, you gain an extra skill point which may only be spent on gaining or improving non-combat skills or raising attributes. You may save this point to spend later if you wish.
Equipment:
Readied items (- / 6)
Buff Coat (AC12) - 0 enc
Bow, Large - 2 enc
20 arrows & quiver - 1 enc
Dagger - 1 enc
Hand Axe - 1 enc
Stowed (- / 13)
Backpack - 1 enc
Cooking utensils - 1 enc
1 week of rations - 4 enc
Waterskin - 1 enc
Tinder box - 0 enc
Torches x 3 - 1 enc
Coinage: 20 silver pieces
Class: Expert, Level 2
Background: Laborer
STR: 13 (+0)
DEX: 14 (+1)
CON: 9 (+0)
INT: 10 (+1)
WIS: 14 (+1)
CHA: 14 (+1)
Skills:
Connect-1
Convince-0
Exert-0
Notice-0
Shoot-0
Sneak-0
Work-0
Languages:
Common
Combat:
Base Attack Bonus: +1
Hit Points: 12 / 12
Armor Class: 13
Weapons:
Large Bow
Hand Axe
Dagger
Saves:
Physical: 14
Evasion: 13
Mental: 13
Luck: 14
Foci:
Deadeye: You have a gift with ranged weapons. While this talent most commonly applies to bows, it is also applicable to thrown weapons or other ranged weapons that can be used with the Shoot skill. For thrown weapons, you can’t use the benefits of the Armsmaster Focus at the same time as Deadeye.
- Level 1: Gain Shoot as a bonus skill. You can Ready a Stowed ranged weapon as an Instant action. You may use a bow or two-handed ranged weapon even when an enemy is within melee range, albeit at a -4 hit penalty. You may add your Shoot skill level to a ranged weapon’s damage roll.
- Level 1: Gain Connect as a bonus skill. If you’ve spent at least a week in a not-entirely-hostile location, you’ll have built a web of contacts willing to do favors for you that are no more than mildly illegal. You can call on one favor per game day and the GM decides how far they’ll go for you.
- Level 1: Reaction rolls made by those the party meets are given a +1 bonus so long as you are present, whether or not you do the talking. Even hostile encountered beings will usually give the party a round to parley before attacking unless they’re in ambush or have a clear reason for immediate violence.
Masterful Expertise: Once per scene, the Expert may reroll any non-combat skill check as an Instant action. This allows the Expert to make a roll and then immediately use this ability if the resulting total isn’t good enough to succeed. In cases where it matters, the better of the two rolls may be used.
Quick Learner: When you advance a character level, you gain an extra skill point which may only be spent on gaining or improving non-combat skills or raising attributes. You may save this point to spend later if you wish.
Equipment:
Readied items (- / 6)
Buff Coat (AC12) - 0 enc
Bow, Large - 2 enc
20 arrows & quiver - 1 enc
Dagger - 1 enc
Hand Axe - 1 enc
Stowed (- / 13)
Backpack - 1 enc
Cooking utensils - 1 enc
1 week of rations - 4 enc
Waterskin - 1 enc
Tinder box - 0 enc
Torches x 3 - 1 enc
Coinage: 20 silver pieces
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I'll have a look at it this weekend but all looks good. I will find a way to work your PC into the game as soon as I can.
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Hi all,
I think I've got a good grounding on the game. I thought I'd roll stats to see if there was something that jumped out as a possible character class, but they were all very middling! Which means I can do kind of ok at a few things.
It looks like we have 4 characters so far, with these roles:
Ciarra - Healer/Warrior
Gars - Warrior/Accursed
Lavin - full Warrior
Sleepy - Expert Ranger
Is there anything missing that folks think would add to the party? I'm thinking maybe a full caster might help, or maybe an Expert to cover a skill gap or two?
I think I've got a good grounding on the game. I thought I'd roll stats to see if there was something that jumped out as a possible character class, but they were all very middling! Which means I can do kind of ok at a few things.
It looks like we have 4 characters so far, with these roles:
Ciarra - Healer/Warrior
Gars - Warrior/Accursed
Lavin - full Warrior
Sleepy - Expert Ranger
Is there anything missing that folks think would add to the party? I'm thinking maybe a full caster might help, or maybe an Expert to cover a skill gap or two?
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Any full caster would be my suggestion. We originally built around a Nobleman Necromancer; when he dropped it created a hole.
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Run what you will enjoy running.
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....also true. 

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Ranger is a VERY generous description of Sleepy. He's just a real people person...who carries a bow.
Welcome to the game!
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Ok, here's a draft of Daravek the Marked, Itinerant High Mage (he/him). Who says being really average can't be a character concept? 
I've got him at Level 1 right now, I wasn't sure if I should roll him to Level 2 or not. Please all take a look and let me know if you have any comments or suggestions. I can't believe I got Connect twice on the Scholar growth table...

I've got him at Level 1 right now, I wasn't sure if I should roll him to Level 2 or not. Please all take a look and let me know if you have any comments or suggestions. I can't believe I got Connect twice on the Scholar growth table...
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I think that's fantastic!
If you want to be previously-acquainted with Gars, I am good with it. You could have been invited along and are just late arriving. (Gars is ingratiating and certainly strove to be in magical and knowledgeable circles, but likely had a similarly-dubious reputation with your school's leadership as well, given that his own magic is limited and inherited (i.e. multi-generational warlock) and not academically learned as they would respect.
You get to buy gear with a full 180gp.
GM will say if you get to be Level 2 (but he let Sleepy level up, so I would assume).

If you want to be previously-acquainted with Gars, I am good with it. You could have been invited along and are just late arriving. (Gars is ingratiating and certainly strove to be in magical and knowledgeable circles, but likely had a similarly-dubious reputation with your school's leadership as well, given that his own magic is limited and inherited (i.e. multi-generational warlock) and not academically learned as they would respect.
You get to buy gear with a full 180gp.
GM will say if you get to be Level 2 (but he let Sleepy level up, so I would assume).
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Yes, level him up to 2!
We do full re-rolls of HP. If you get a number lower than before, add 1 to your previous total instead.
We do full re-rolls of HP. If you get a number lower than before, add 1 to your previous total instead.
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I hadn't looked at the Arts in a long time. Since the GM is leaning into the Privation rules, this one is both really amusing for roleplay and also appropriate.
Wizard’s Grandeur: Commit Effort as an On Turn ac-
tion. As long as it remains Committed, you will not
become dirty, sweaty, stained, or rumpled regard-
less of the circumstances. Noxious substances will
slide off you without staining and you will remain
comfortable regardless of your attire in any normal
climate. You may sleep comfortably without shelter
or bedding as per the privation rules on page 51.