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I would be more worried about the possibility of havin them communicating with each other rather than simply the possibility of them being aware that their companions are alive or something like that. if we tie and secure them we should be able to meve them back to Threshold.

I wouldn't be too worried with getting information ourselves. That's up to the authorities. Once we've delivered these guys to the cops back in the big city we can be back to murdering and plundering, eventually the church or the city guard will update us on Elwyn/Bargle's plans and we can switch back to being the good guys.

zebediah wrote:I wouldn't be too worried with getting information ourselves. That's up to the authorities. Once we've delivered these guys to the cops back in the big city we can be back to murdering and plundering, eventually the church or the city guard will update us on Elwyn/Bargle's plans and we can switch back to being the good guys.

I agree with that, for the most part. Still, it would be nice to give the new guy a chance to try out his Charm Person spell, especially if we are not getting any response otherwise. Afterwards, we can use their own cart to transport them as prisoners back to Threshold (bound and gagged and with no arms or armor).

But I think you hit on something broader there - it would be good to get back to some dungeon crawling! As players, I think there are more of us that are actively engaged in the game during a dungeon crawl than during a wilderness adventure (don't get me wrong - I love 'em both!) And certainly there are plenty of good plot hooks for us to find a good dungeon crawl too... once our current mission is complete!

Bregalad the elf

I think you both hit upon it, Frobozz and Zebediah. Dungeon crawls, even outdoor adventures, are what Bregalad desires! And when done for a good purpose, the elf draws resolve and satisfaction from it.

The elf's issue with the Bargle/Elwyn mission, however, is that it is still nebulous. So, we are using interrogations and possibly torture to uncover their schemes, something the elf understands when used against evil races, but not against men.

If the evil wizard and cleric's plans come to fruition, then the elf will gladly defend Threshold. But he would rather not be involved in torture and intrigue against humans and demi-humans.

Meagnor thinks we should question all of them to see if any of them gives their relationship with Elwyn/Bargle or at least to know who is the group leader. Then he can try to charm the leader or anyone else (in case we don't know who is the leader) to learn something else about the enemies and those caves.

I'm good with trying to help the north elves, unless something important comes up from the emissaries.

thirdkingdom wrote:

Okay, so there have been a couple of PCs suggesting the prisoners should just be taken back to Threshold. I suppose the other option would be to try and interogate them now, prior to taking them back. Can I get some votes on this, please?

I thought we all seemed to be in some sort of general agreement about performing an initial interrogation (including using Meagnor's Charm Person spell) followed by taking them all back to Threshold as prisoners. But I might be wrong?

I think it would be best to use Charm Person before Thordin starts removing digits. However Thordin doesn't count in order too well, and may yet dedigitize the poor fellow before the Charm can be cast.

I thought we were already interrogating the prisoners. Drudsa's suggestion to move back was written from the understanding that the questioning was already going for some time and the mage was worried we were reaching the point of escalating into violence.

Using charm person is a great idea, of course, but if we don't manage to get anything useful via the spell I believe it would be better to return to town sooner rather than later.

Rremedio, you're not by any chance Portuguese/Brazilian, ou és?

Luis wrote:Rremedio, you're not by any chance Portuguese/Brazilian, ou és?

Sim! I'm Brazilian! Are you?

Brazilians will rule the world eventually. Hopefully by that time the aliens will save us.

Poor world...

Ok guys, I'm untied the bastard. After he gives us the confession I'll put him in position to be surrounded by us so he can't try to escape.

@zebediah: assuming that he accepts to come with us, what would we do about the others?

EDIT: well, this looks like a good chance to get information about Elwyn if we are interested. Or should we just get them and take them to the Church, now that we know who they are?

I figure if we can just get a coalition going between the Elves and the Brazilians, we should have a solid majority on every vote.

Totally your call on handling the prisoner, rremedio!

Maybe Thordin will buy another pony and call him "Surrounded by Brazilians".

About the prisoners: Will we put those thugs to walk in front of us until we reach Threshold? The guy under the spell is talking but he probably doesn't know very much.

rremedio wrote:About the prisoners: Will we put those thugs to walk in front of us until we reach Threshold? The guy under the spell is talking but he probably doesn't know very much.

Lanny's thought had been to give the other five thugs a "free ride" on their own cart (although still bound and gagged) back to Threshold. How thoughtful of us, that we don't make them walk all the way there! We'll keep a secure perimeter around them on horseback to prevent any escape. However, I'm doubting the authorities in Threshold will get much more information out of any of these thugs (except perhaps the leader).

I figured that after Meagnor finishes his preliminary questioning, maybe other PCs who still have questions for the prisoner can still ask them through Meagnor (I assume this dude will be charmed for a full day at a minimum).

By the way, good job so far with the questioning!

rremedio wrote:Meagnor, the Elf

"Well, my friend. We didn't know Elwyn was sending you here so we took the chest to Threshold where its safe. We can take you there and assure that nobody will bother you on the way. Then, you get the chest and go back to Elwyn. But I'm afraid we cannot release your men yet. You see, they were very threatening over us, one of them even spitted on my face. They are not reasonable people like you and me and they could want revenge for being tied and interrogated".

"After you have the chest, we will untie them and set them free to go with you. By the way, how you came to know Elwyn? You know I trust you, but I need to give explanations to my companions because we weren't expecting you".

Bregalad the elf

Should a couple of us ride ahead to Threshold? It may difficult to get this cleric or the men-at-arms to enter the city. Maybe we could get authorities from the church and city guards to meet us just outside the city gates.

Finglas wrote: Bregalad the elf

Should a couple of us ride ahead to Threshold? It may difficult to get this cleric or the men-at-arms to enter the city. Maybe we could get authorities from the church and city guards to meet us just outside the city gates.

I agree. I think the city guard knows you guys because of the finding of Aleena's body. So maybe someone could go ahead and tell them about the prisoners and they wait to get the prisoners inside the city walls (or outside, they are tied anyway).

I've just checked the calendar topic and noticed that some days passed already since the emissaries arrival, so I think we should already leave and take them to Threshold. If we want more talking with the prisoner we can do that on the way. And we must keep an eye on him cause he may break free from the spell if he has high Intelligence (not likely )

It is actually still the same day (the 9th). I included the future dates so you guys would know when the caravan arrives.

I agree with sending an advance guard of two horsemen to alert and prepare the authorities in town.

Some things we should probably consider before we reach Threshold:

Are we going to simply turn all of them over to the authorities and then turn our attention to other matters?

Are we going to try to somehow supplant the five thugs and escort our new "friend" and the chest (the chest full of whoop-ass, I mean) back to Elwyn's hideout?

Would we even consider letting them continue on (after additional questioning by the authorities in Threshold) and giving them a "fake" chest (since Elwyn will likely become suspicious if they do not return to him in a timely fashion)?

Because the five thugs are devotees as well (and not just common street thugs), they are probably known personally to Elwyn and will likely have to remain detained until Elwyn is captured.

Just a question, but what are these guys actually suspected of doing that the authorities would be interested in?