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shaidar wrote: ↑Sat Aug 10, 2024 4:35 pm As for the bands style, anyone familiar with a Scottish band called Biffy Clyro?

archolewa wrote: ↑Sat Aug 10, 2024 4:14 pm I think it makes sense to have the whole team together for calls. At the bare minimum, I want my character to be there (though she probably won't say anything). Her photographic memory would be a tremendous asset to the team (recording without electronics!). I don't know what the rules for reading body language and voice tone is. She might be good at that (if it's some sort of perception style thing) or absolute rubbish if it's more charisma based.

shaidar wrote: ↑Sat Aug 10, 2024 4:35 pm Contacted as a team sounds good to me. I also like the idea of us all being there for calls, even if we have a spokesperson who usually does the talking.

Communicating via gigs could be a little complicated and time consuming. But it could be fine via the bands site on the matrix!

shaidar wrote: ↑Sat Aug 10, 2024 4:35 pm Speaking of the band, I was thinking of taking songwriting (rock) as my second hobby skill, unless someone else wants that job.

shaidar wrote: ↑Sat Aug 10, 2024 4:35 pm As for the bands style, anyone familiar with a Scottish band called Biffy Clyro?

shaidar wrote: ↑Sat Aug 10, 2024 6:53 pm I was going to go for a cheap guitar, but now I'm going to have to go for the 1500Y one and spend 4 points on guitar (electric) for 3/5 skill and 2 points on songwriting (rock) to give 1/3 skill, so I think we do need another songwriter.

shaidar wrote: ↑Sat Aug 10, 2024 6:53 pm I do like the idea of the group accommodation, although we could end up hating each other.

Charybdis Richelle wrote: ↑Sat Aug 10, 2024 6:28 pm By RAW, that sort of thing is a Perception Test. However, depending on the situation, I might allow a Social Skill depending on what the character is attempting to do.

archolewa wrote: ↑Sat Aug 10, 2024 10:05 pm

Charybdis Richelle wrote: ↑Sat Aug 10, 2024 6:28 pm By RAW, that sort of thing is a Perception Test. However, depending on the situation, I might allow a Social Skill depending on what the character is attempting to do.

Probably mostly trying to read body language (if we can see them), or listening to voice inflections and the like to try to get a read on their emotional state. Sounds like then her Perceptive edge would apply then? If so, then yeah I totally imagine Baby Blue just sitting there and listening/watching carefully, filing the event away in her crazy good memory, and telling her fellows whether she she thinks the Johnson is on the level and what not.

Also, I took singing 4 and dancing 2 for her hobbies. I'm totally down with us being a legit band. I imagine Baby Blue is a total wallflower, doing her best not to be noticed. Except when she's on stage. Then she's singing and dancing and pouring her heart and soul into the music.

I think the accomodations sound reasonable. So, I'd be paying 10% of 10K a month, so 1000 nuyen for the first month? That should work. After one month for 1000Y, I have just under 1500 left (before dividing by 10). So I could afford two months of that off the bat. Alternatively, I could afford 1 month of rooming at the high lifestyle, and 1 month of a low lifestyle safehouse (probably arranged through Neon).

I'm also down with a style like the one you posted @shaidar.

Gremlin wrote: ↑Sat Aug 10, 2024 10:38 pm I'm still trying to somehow fit attributes and skills in before even thinking about money (taking Elf and Shaman is literally half the build points by themselves), so I haven't looked at lifestyles or other gear yet.

Question: One of the Stealth specializations is 'Theft', so it seems all kinds of mundane thieving seems to fall under stealth. So that should include lockpicking mundane locks and pick pocketing, yes? Since it specifically includes 'sleight of hand'.

Gremlin wrote: ↑Sat Aug 10, 2024 10:38 pm I'm still trying to somehow fit attributes and skills in before even thinking about money (taking Elf and Shaman is literally half the build points by themselves), so I haven't looked at lifestyles or other gear yet.

Question: One of the Stealth specializations is 'Theft', so it seems all kinds of mundane thieving seems to fall under stealth. So that should include lockpicking mundane locks and pick pocketing, yes? Since it specifically includes 'sleight of hand'.

archolewa wrote: ↑Sat Aug 10, 2024 10:05 pm I think the accomodations sound reasonable. So, I'd be paying 10% of 10K a month, so 1000 nuyen for the first month? That should work. After one month for 1000Y, I have just under 1500 left (before dividing by 10). So I could afford two months of that off the bat. Alternatively, I could afford 1 month of rooming at the high lifestyle, and 1 month of a low lifestyle safehouse (probably arranged through Neon).

Juramenta wrote: ↑Sat Aug 10, 2024 10:48 pm

Gremlin wrote: ↑Sat Aug 10, 2024 10:38 pm I'm still trying to somehow fit attributes and skills in before even thinking about money (taking Elf and Shaman is literally half the build points by themselves), so I haven't looked at lifestyles or other gear yet.

Question: One of the Stealth specializations is 'Theft', so it seems all kinds of mundane thieving seems to fall under stealth. So that should include lockpicking mundane locks and pick pocketing, yes? Since it specifically includes 'sleight of hand'.

Lockpicking mundane locks is it's own skill now. Check a few posts up for the skills from SOTA.
Pick pocketing should still be stealth? But you would have to check that with Chary to be certain.

Charybdis Richelle wrote: ↑Sat Aug 10, 2024 10:49 pm For lockpicking in particular, uses the rules in State of the Art 2063. Jura posted the page number a few posts back.

Charybdis Richelle wrote: ↑Sat Aug 10, 2024 10:52 pm

archolewa wrote: ↑Sat Aug 10, 2024 10:05 pm I think the accomodations sound reasonable. So, I'd be paying 10% of 10K a month, so 1000 nuyen for the first month? That should work. After one month for 1000Y, I have just under 1500 left (before dividing by 10). So I could afford two months of that off the bat. Alternatively, I could afford 1 month of rooming at the high lifestyle, and 1 month of a low lifestyle safehouse (probably arranged through Neon).

You can do it that way. Most of the groups I have seen do it make it more equitable. They added up the total... 10% for each extra person, and then they divided that totally by the number of people. So, if 3 were sharing a Lifestyle, they would pay 120% of the cost and divide that by 3. So, everyone paid their fair share.

Gremlin wrote: ↑Sat Aug 10, 2024 11:45 pm

Charybdis Richelle wrote: ↑Sat Aug 10, 2024 10:49 pm For lockpicking in particular, uses the rules in State of the Art 2063. Jura posted the page number a few posts back.

Okay.

I see that Disguise is also on that same list for mundane disguises. Reading the spell Mask it doesn't look like there's any need for a complementary skill so a Disguise skill wouldn't really be necessary with Mask?

archolewa wrote: ↑Sat Aug 10, 2024 11:50 pm

Charybdis Richelle wrote: ↑Sat Aug 10, 2024 10:52 pm

archolewa wrote: ↑Sat Aug 10, 2024 10:05 pm I think the accomodations sound reasonable. So, I'd be paying 10% of 10K a month, so 1000 nuyen for the first month? That should work. After one month for 1000Y, I have just under 1500 left (before dividing by 10). So I could afford two months of that off the bat. Alternatively, I could afford 1 month of rooming at the high lifestyle, and 1 month of a low lifestyle safehouse (probably arranged through Neon).

You can do it that way. Most of the groups I have seen do it make it more equitable. They added up the total... 10% for each extra person, and then they divided that totally by the number of people. So, if 3 were sharing a Lifestyle, they would pay 120% of the cost and divide that by 3. So, everyone paid their fair share.

Ah, ok. I think I misinterpreted the rule when you first mentioned it. I read it as "person A has to pay 100% person of the lifestyle, but person B can ride along for an additional 10%." I read it as more rigid than it actually is.