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Re: 1st Scroll - The Will of Nobles
Posted: Tue May 11, 2021 5:59 pm
by jemmus
I see, thanks for clarifying. The chart says the BCS Modifier for Point Blank is +2. Range is 2-10 yards, "+10/Man-Rating." So for the 3-Man dai-kyu, 32-40 yards for Point Blank. That seems kind of extreme. Maybe the chart means to add the Man-Rating bonus only for Long Range? What does everyone think?
The rules on p. 61 say this about moving and using a dai-kyu.
Use Dal-kyu
This Option, available to Unengaged characters, allows the
character to loose one arrow with a Dai-kyu. No movement is
allowed.
Re: 1st Scroll - The Will of Nobles
Posted: Tue May 11, 2021 6:08 pm
by Marullus
jemmus wrote: ↑Tue May 11, 2021 4:28 pmOmi would currently be at Short range (41-90 yards with his STR figure and 3-Man dai-kyu). +0 to BCS. ... So Short Range is 21-45 yards. Omi is currently at Long Range (46-90 yards, -4 BCS). He'll reach Short range on Turn 5. Point Blank (+2 BCS) is 16-20 yards. Omi will reach it on Turn 9.
That all checks out.
jemmus wrote: ↑Tue May 11, 2021 4:28 pmAt whatever range, Omi gets a +3 to BCS because of his 3-Man dai-kyu. (That's what I make of the unexplained
Man-Rating Modifier info on the Archery Table on p.11).[/ooc]
Not quite. The Man Rating impact is defined here:
The Man-Rating also defines how much damage will be done by
arrows loosed from the bow. The basic rule is that 1 die of damage is
done per Man-Rating of power behind the arrow.
So, at Short range (with +0, +0), Omi will do BCS and damage according to his arrow type as shown below on his sheet:
Code: Select all
Weapons BCS Damage
Hiki-me (Humming Bulb) 8 3d3+1
Togari (Armor Piercer) 10 3d5+1
Yanagi-ba (Willow Leaf) 9 3d6+1
Watakushi (Bowelraker) 7 3d6+3d3+1
Code: Select all
Weapons BCS Damage
Hiki-me (Humming Bulb) 10 4d3+1
Togari (Armor Piercer) 12 4d5+1
Yanagi-ba (Willow Leaf) 11 4d6+1
Watakushi (Bowelraker) 9 4d6+4d3+1
jmacatty wrote: ↑Tue May 11, 2021 5:05 pm
The man rating modifier is an adjustment for over-bowing or under-bowing. It doesn't apply here. I'm not sure how you got the point blank rating. Also, will you allow me to walk up as I shoot arrows?
Underbowing and overbowing are separate modifiers to BCS; I don't believe they impact anything above.
Edit to add:
jemmus wrote: ↑Tue May 11, 2021 5:59 pm
I see, thanks for clarifying. The chart says the BCS Modifier for Point Blank is +2. Range is 2-10 yards, "+10/Man-Rating." So for the 3-Man dai-kyu, 32-40 yards for Point Blank. That seems kind of extreme. Maybe the chart means to add the Man-Rating bonus only for Long Range? What does everyone think?
I think your original interpretation is correct; that's how I calculated it, too, on Kentaro's and Omi's sheets. The strength of a bow is important to range - I think it applies to each category and not just 'long'.
Re: 1st Scroll - The Will of Nobles
Posted: Tue May 11, 2021 7:28 pm
by jmacatty
That all makes sense to me.
Re: 1st Scroll - The Will of Nobles
Posted: Tue May 11, 2021 7:41 pm
by jemmus
Sounds good. But let's wait for ffilz to weigh in, since we're trying to keep things consistent between the games.
Re: 1st Scroll - The Will of Nobles
Posted: Tue May 11, 2021 7:51 pm
by ffilz
jemmus wrote: ↑Tue May 11, 2021 7:41 pm
Sounds good. But let's wait for ffilz to weigh in, since we're trying to keep things consistent between the games.
All sounds good to me.
Re: 1st Scroll - The Will of Nobles
Posted: Tue May 11, 2021 7:53 pm
by jemmus
I see that I missed a couple of things when I copied and pasted my text for Turn 1.
Ito - 8 HP damage from the o-bakemono's club. Please mark your sheet. No Bash effect.
Bash
This will drive the character back 1 yard, eliminate his next
Available Action Phase, and require him to make a Strength Saving
Throw to keep his feet under him.
Kentaro - You can see the fight on your Turn 5 BAP.
Re: 1st Scroll - The Will of Nobles
Posted: Tue May 11, 2021 8:54 pm
by ffilz
Could you clarify the situation Taisho is facing? Did he get swung at? If he's not actually fighting yet, going full defense might actually make sense.
Re: 1st Scroll - The Will of Nobles
Posted: Tue May 11, 2021 9:30 pm
by jemmus
Taisho isn't fighting. The small bakemono was in front of Ito and went for him. The big bakemono that was in front of Taisho, but it went for Ito too. The positions are like this.
Taisho
Ito
Big Small
Taisho is around 4 yards from Ito. Ito is up for his Secondary Action Phase, then Taisho goes. Then we'll start Turn 2 and the bakemono will go.
Re: 1st Scroll - The Will of Nobles
Posted: Tue May 11, 2021 11:00 pm
by ffilz
Hmm, is there any way I can aid Ito? A blessing takes 1d10 detailed turns, so unlikely to help...
Re: 1st Scroll - The Will of Nobles
Posted: Wed May 12, 2021 12:35 am
by jemmus
Well, my attempt at formatting forums text to show the char's positions utterly failed. It just left-justified and stacked all the text entries on top of each other.
Ito is to Taisho's left, around 4 yards away. He's beset by an o-bakemono with a giant hard club (equal to a tetsuboh) to his front right. A fierce bakemono-sho to his front left quadrant attacked first, but the club it was swinging flew from its hand. (Critical Miss, apparent Disarm result).
Taisho, concealed in the woods, saw the bake-sho and o-bakemono stomp into the campfire site. After some looking and sniffing around, the smaller thing alerted onto Ito. The bigger one alerted onto Taisho. They stood apart, each keeping an eye on (hopefully) its victim. Ito stepped forth, and both sprung on him.
It's now a tangle, one the smaller bakemono having just lost its weapon, the big red one closing and landing a rapid blow on Ito's shoulder armor. 8 HP damage. Ito's disciplined slashing kenjutsu katana stroke seems to have just missed the face of the bigger one. Gakusho Taisho, looking 4 yards to his left, sees the tall and mostly naked beast's side and it's little engaged and enraged mind exposed....
Re: 1st Scroll - The Will of Nobles
Posted: Wed May 12, 2021 2:16 am
by ffilz
I guess if Taisho can cover the 4 yards and smack the big bakemono with his bo.
Re: 1st Scroll - The Will of Nobles
Posted: Wed May 12, 2021 6:21 am
by spanningtree
Ito bring his katana around and swing at the bakemono-sho.
OCC: I hope this is an appropriate secondary.
Another try: [1d20]=9
OCC: I think that is a hit and the appropriate damage would be 1d6+3. Let me know how far off I am here.
Damage: [1d6]=2+3
Re: 1st Scroll - The Will of Nobles
Posted: Wed May 12, 2021 2:11 pm
by jemmus
Ito followed through with is missed slash by snapping with the classic kenjutsu technique of snapping the blade down at the opponent's left wrist. But the o-bake pulled its clawed hand back and the blade met only air.
Re: 1st Scroll - The Will of Nobles
Posted: Wed May 12, 2021 2:42 pm
by ffilz
Umm, can I attack from 1 yard away?
Taisho isn't going to win any marathons... His 100 yard dash takes almost 2 minutes... (BMA 3 x 2 run per 6 seconds...)
Sorry, trying to get a handle on what Taisho can actually do...
Re: 1st Scroll - The Will of Nobles
Posted: Wed May 12, 2021 3:20 pm
by Enoch
What weapon is Taisho using? 1116.3 Weapon Ranges shows the distance a weapon is useful at; 1 yard is Medium range, so if you're using a katana that's actually the ideal range (2 yds is a -1 BCS, as is 0-1 yd).
Re: 1st Scroll - The Will of Nobles
Posted: Wed May 12, 2021 4:32 pm
by jemmus
Taisho has BMA 3. The fight is four yards to his left. He has to spend 1 point of BMA to change facing to his left. He can use the other 2 points to move two yards and attack (Close to Engage). Taisho would end the turn two yards from the large o-bake. His bo is a Long range weapon, so two yards is its optimal range (+0 BCS). The attack would be from the side, so +5 to BCS. (1117.3, p.65).
Taisho can't do a jujutsu attack at all at Long range. He would have to close to Contact, Short, or Medium.
I don't think he can Charge (move 2x BMA and attack), because of the facing change.
Close To Engage
This Option allows Unengaged characters to move up to one-half
their Base Movement Allowance in yards and execute an attack on
the same Action Phase.
Charge
This Option allows only straight-line movement. The character
may move up to twice his Base Movement Allowance in yards. The
character may execute an attack at the end of his charge. This will be
resolved on Action Phase 2 of the countdown after all other actions
on that Action Phase are resolved. The Option is only available to
Unengaged characters. The character must cover at least 3 yards to
receive any BCS or Damage benefits due to Charge Movement.
Re: 1st Scroll - The Will of Nobles
Posted: Wed May 12, 2021 4:48 pm
by Enoch
Given the suggestion that we plan our round in advance to speed things up, here is Katsumi's general plan:
Assuming the tactical situation doesn't change drastically in the time it takes him to arrive, he will attempt to approach one of the bakemono from behind and Trip them with his kyoketsu-shoge, figuring that inflicting wounds is something the bushi are better equipped to do- but taking one of its feet could be a force multiplier.
Re: 1st Scroll - The Will of Nobles
Posted: Wed May 12, 2021 6:25 pm
by ffilz
OK so more understanding... I close to engage doesn't say 1/2 round down, so Taisho can move 2 yards and close to engage, but he needs to use 1 yard to change facing, so sounds like that leaves him at a 3 yard distance, which is extra long range, -1 BCS for bojitsu. So that sounds like +5 BCS for side, -1 BCS for range, so 7 + 4 is 11?
Hmm, should he try and trip? Can he do that with Bo?
Re: 1st Scroll - The Will of Nobles
Posted: Wed May 12, 2021 7:10 pm
by jemmus
Right, there's no penalty for Close to Engage moving and attacking on the same phase. Taisho starts at 4 yards from the NPC. So after using his three BMA to turn and move he's moved 2 yards. He's 2 yards away, so Long range. +0 to the bojutsu BCS of 7.
Then, +5 for the side attack. -3 for this o-bakemono's AC. So the final modifier to the BCS +2, for an adjusted BCS of 9.
It looks like only the flexible weapons (kusari, etc.) can Trip. But the bo gets a Second Strike. The BCS would be 50% of the BCS for the first attack (round down) = 4. Then a -1 penalty to that = BCS 3. The downside using Second Strike is you lose the AC bonus for using the bo defensively. And next turn all attacks on Taisho next turn will be at +1 BCS. If you want to do a second strike, please roll both rolls.
Second Strlke
The Second Strike is a second attack made by a weapon on the
same Action Phase as its normal Strike. Each attack suffers a -1 to
the BCS in addition to any other modifiers. The Second Strike BCS is
50% of the character's Base BCS for that Action Phase. The damage
done and the Range for the weapon are unaltered.
If using a Second Strike, the attacker loses the benefit of any
Defense bonus and all attacks against him are at +1, from the Action
Phase in which he made the Second Strike until the same Action
Phase in the following Detailed Turn.
Re: 1st Scroll - The Will of Nobles
Posted: Wed May 12, 2021 7:31 pm
by jmacatty
Omi will begin firing Armor piercers as soon as he reaches point blank range. anytime a monster moves in his direction, he will drop his bow and draw his katana, using iajutsu if the monster is within range, otherwise drawing and moving to attack.