OOC Discussion (Session 1 & 2)

[Ludanto]

Alas, by that time, he was Hungry & Thirsty, too, and you have to recover in the correct order. Maybe he should have eaten a ration. That would have been optimal, but it's hard to coordinate in the forums sometimes.

[Marullus]

(He was Hungry and Thirsty first, actually)

Yep. An unfortunate and costly oversight. I should have said he ate before Ludanto locked the thread. I totally forgot about that rule and didn't think of it... We did the prologue expecting Exhausted to be lifted but instead he recovered from Hungry.

[Marullus]

Couldn't you spend a Fare point to reroll all the 6's?

Yes, except he already won.

He wanted to record a spent Fate to get closer to level 2, but couldn't justify doing so when it was already a success.

[Ludanto]

After some meditation on the nature of Dwarven weapons, I've decided this:

Their abilities are a meta-game conceit, so the players can just know what they do.

As such:
Skyfall the Dwarven hand-axe will, one time only, ground a flying enemy when thrown at it.

[jhrrsn]

Haha, that's awesome (and funny).

[Marullus]

Thanks for answering that. Is it just player knowledge or is there an ability to get character knowledge? (I couldn't puzzle out a wizardly Detect Magic function.)

[Rusty Tincanne]

I am fine with Rabon staying angry, by the way. So we can research the tome.

[Ludanto]

Thanks for answering that. Is it just player knowledge or is there an ability to get character knowledge? (I couldn't puzzle out a wizardly Detect Magic function.)

The spell "Supernal Vision" is your "detect magic" spell.

However, Dwarven weapons aren't exactly "magical". At least not in the way Magicians understand it. Besides, the effect isn't a "spell" or a "power" or anything in the fiction. It is totally a meta-game effect.

I suppose the closest thing to "character knowledge" that you could get would be a pretty challenging Scholar test to find a historical account that it "felled a flying beast", or was "made by a dwarf that hated birds" or something.

[BillTheGalacticHero]

Aoife settles in and begins to work her way through the pages. It's interesting stuff, and perhaps a little disturbing. It's a prayer book dedicated to Dorrask. It's not a name that she's familiar with, but from context, he seems to be a Lord of Toil and Suffering.

An inscription in the back reads, "Tarog is no longer worthy of our devotions. Only Dorrask can deliver us from the failings of King Garbold."

This isn't something that one finds often. It might be worth a few coins to a collector of historical documents.

To be clear, no test was needed. Value: 1-2D (to a collector). Pack 1

So if they were able to read the book without a Test/Check, we still have one left, or did I lose track?

[Ludanto]

Still one left, yes.

[ffilz]

I just want to let folks know I've got a nasty cold. I will do my best to keep up, but response from me might be slower (or really confused).

Frank

[Ludanto]

Nothing like cold medicine to release one's creativity!

[BillTheGalacticHero]

As for spending the next adventure phase fortifying our base, I'm ok with that. We would have 3, or up to 7 tests if we're willing to go hungry. I was thinking that maybe Galen and I could go hunting and/or scavenging for game and edible plants. I was also thinking of trying to enlist a wolf to join us as a bonus to the hunt, dogs give +1D, so wolves should too.

So I would be willing to converse with Greygrim (I only have Haggle though, and this sounds more like Persuade), offer him half of what we find if he lets us befriend a junior pack member (one that would accept Galen and I as senior pack members to himself/herself) to go get a deer using Hunting, this could get us up to 6 fresh food (and then give 3 to Greygrim). Then use Scavenger to get up to 4 more fresh foods - berries, nuts, etc, give 1 or 2 to Greygrim if they want nuts and berries.

That would give those who stayed back in the tower 3 or 4 tests to improve it, and Galen and I could return with up to 5 fresh food, and possibly a wolf ally.

Thoughts?

[shroomofinsanity]

I would be more than happy to help or lead a persuasion, since I am trained in it. Maybe your experience hunting can assist my attempt to chat up our furry "allies."

[BillTheGalacticHero]

I'll be off-line most of tomorrow, and probably off and on for the next few days, I'm flying west to my niece's wedding. I should have internet access after I get to my sister's place.

[Marullus]

I've also seen some procedures adopted in the past:
- Help is assumed because we're working together as best we can. The person making the test suggests the help he's getting from others based on their sheets so he can move forward with rolling (unless we have narrative that specifies otherwise). Everyone posts IC action as narrative based on that. [Announcing the challenge, deciding who's doing the test, then waiting for everyone to post help, then doing the test, then adjudicating it takes twice as long.]

Any help has to be legitimate and narrated.

Just making sure that we're being clear in our operating rules, since this is a change.

Do you want each helping die narrated by the person helping, before the roll, or included in the narrative of the die-roller when they act?

Either is fine, of course, but if we take the unabridged route, each round will take 2x to 3x longer. (We've been going fast so far, so that might be good.)

Turn acting would now be like this, right?
- Player states the action.
- GM states the test and Obstacle.
- Player states his initial dice and method.
- All other players post to state their Help.
- Player rolls the dice.
- GM adjudicates the result.

If it is on the acting player (as we've been doing) it would remain like this:
- Player states the action.
- GM states the test and Obstacle.
- Player states his initial dice and method; Player looks at sheets and assumes Help including in his narrative; Player rolls the dice.
- GM adjudicates the result.

[Ludanto]

No change. Help can be assumed, but it has to make sense and actually be helpful, and should be described by whoever (usually the tester). This was just a reminder.

[Marullus]

Rabon takes the spikes as instructed by Aoife. And having been raised by peasants, he shows the dwarf what real griping os all about, Doors like this are real heavy, so let's get it done quick. I remember this time I helped a carpenter with a door like this. Only putting it up, mind you. Had to hold the darned thing still for nearly 30 minutes while he took his sweet old time hangin' it. My arms ached for days afterward, and all I earned was a few coppers. Barely enough to buy some salt and an onion to season the soup that evenin'. Turnip and cabbage stew, I believe it was. Can't say near 'nough how much I hate turnips. We only ever grew 'em 'cause nothing else'd eat 'em. That and garlic. He prattles on for as long as the job takes.

+1D help.
I still earned a check last roll, right? I might use it to earn a test on peasant, depending on if Aoife earns a check on this roll.

This is friggin' awesome.

[BillTheGalacticHero]

In the interest of sanity, Thag's scavenging of debris to make a survivalist lever is a Good Idea™ (instead of two turns)

So, Peasant Ob2, +1D (spikes), +1D (Rabon help), +1D (lever-tastic supplies)

To clarify, I was explaining how I would use Survivalist o jury-rig tools, I didn't realize it would be a separate test.

[Ludanto]

That's the thing. Anything you do might call for a test. Or it might not. You never know for certain until you describe what it is that you do.

It all probably works more smoothly face-to-face.