[011] The Door Opens and a fire fight ensues

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[011] The Door Opens and a fire fight ensues

#1 Post by ffilz »

You open the door, and let's have a new surprise check. The spiders:

[2d6+3] = 7+3 = 10
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[2d6+3] = 5+3 = 8 for our check.

So no "surprise" for anyone - which I suppose, given the circumstances, is no surprise! ;)

I'll check back and roll to hit shortly.
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2+1+3 = 6
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Foix fires a full auto burst (at a laser armed spider at the back of the room. So medium range (6m+) ?):

[2d6+6] = 7+6 = 13

Group hit chance on an adjacent target is therefore 13 - 3 = 10

Firing twice (Full Automatic Fire p.39) at the same target:

[2d6+6] = 11+6 = 17

Group hit chance on an adjacent target is therefore 17 - 3 = 14
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Tiglath wrote:Foix fires a full auto burst (at a laser armed spider at the back of the room. So medium range (6m+) ?):

[2d6+6] = 7+6 = 13

Group hit chance on an adjacent target is therefore 13 - 3 = 10

Firing twice (Full Automatic Fire p.39) at the same target:

[2d6+6] = 11+6 = 17

Group hit chance on an adjacent target is therefore 17 - 3 = 14
BTW, you should use the dice roller with campaign 638.

The way I read it, the rolls for adjacent targets get a separate roll against two more targets (one I assume will be the other armed spider, the third target will be an unarmed spider which is evading so a -2 DM).

I may be missing a modifier, what did you use (+2 for medium range, +2 for skill), but you also get +6 for Jack armor... So actually the adjacent shots are automatic hits (no auto miss on a 2 or anything like that in Traveller...)

Both shots hit, for the first shot on each target, just roll your full damage, for the 2nd shot on the first target, roll the dice individually (application of the first blood rule).

Who else is firing?

The two spiders are firing (I'll declare targets for them and roll once I know who actually are targets).
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ffilz wrote:Who else is firing? The two spiders are firing (I'll declare targets for them and roll once I know who actually are targets).
Vee is watching the rear, so she positions herself out of the line of fire.
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ffilz wrote:BTW, you should use the dice roller with campaign 638.
Thank you - I was scrabbling about for that last night and couldn't find it! :oops:

The missing mod is +2 for Advantageous Dexterity (10+ with Autorifle).

So Med Range +2, Dex +2, Skill +2 = +6.

The creatures' armour was unknown to me at time of rolling (Jack so +6).

I'll do the separate rolls for the first and second group hits (which should show in the campaign roller). I'll show my working to keep the Group and Autofire rules straight in my head.

So Foix shoots at the first target (hits on previous roll) then rolls twice more for the adjacent targets as group hits (DMs: +12 -3 for group hits test):

Armed Creature [2d6+9] = 11+9 = 20
Unarmed Creature (evading) [2d6+7] = 7+7 = 14

Foix shoots again (Full Automatic Fire rule) at the same target (hits on previous roll) then rolls twice more for the adjacent targets as group hits:

Armed Creature [2d6+9] = 7+9 = 16
Unarmed Creature (evading) [2d6+7] = 7+7 = 14

Well, the extra +6 (for Jack armour) certainly helps to keep him on target!

He hits his initial target twice. He then scores group hits on both additional available targets (max possible) with both bursts.

Carnage! :)

Stop Press: p.39 Group Hits applies only to "non evading targets".

So corrected Result: Foix hits his initial target twice and then gets group hits on the other (non evading) target twice.

Still Carnage! ;)

Damage (required as serial dice scores?) - I used my other die roller for this as I couldn't get Unseen Servant to not add the individual die scores together.

Initial Target

First hit: Roll(3d6)+0:5,5,5,+0 Total:15
Second hit: Roll(3d6)+0: 4,1,4,+0 Total:9

Group hit on second target:

First hit: Roll(3d6)+0: 3,3,6,+0 Total:12
Second hit: Roll(3d6)+0: 6,3,5,+0 Total:14

Phew, tired now! I'll shoot for Grimaud later. :)

You can see why they went to: Roll Modified 8+ to Hit.
Then 2d6 + Weapon Pen - Armour Value = Result.
[12+ Dead, 11 or less Serious Wound, 7 or less Light wound, 3 or less no effect].
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Ok, more clarification of autofire...

Against the chosen target, you get to make two attack rolls.
You also get two attack rolls against two different adjacent non-evading targets

I don't read that the 2nd attack roll on the initial target grants multiple shots at the same additional target. The 1981 text reads with slightly more clarity.

For damage rolls in the future, use the Unseen Servant dice roller, just do [1d6][1d6][1d6] for a 3D damage weapon (we should ask if they would add a macro option to give the individual dice, many games benefit from seeing the individual dice).

Snapshot isn't too helpful here (the 2nd attack on the target goes away because Snapshot's action points give you possibly multiple shots per turn).

Against the 1st target:
1st blood [1d3] = 2 so DEX
15 is more than it's DEX, so it goes down and takes more wounds.

Against the 2nd target:
1st blood [1d3] = 2 so DEX
12 is it's DEX so it goes down

Any other shots? Taheri is shooting with Laser rifle (at one of the armed ones or one of the unarmed ones?)
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Nathan takes a breath and resorts to the tried and tested spray-n-pray method of conflict resolution.
Autofire vs Armed Spider: 23 to hit, 10 damage
(SMG Skill +2, vs Jack +6, Advantageous Dex +2, Medium range +3 = +12, Attack rolled twice for Autofire) [2d6+12] = 6+12 = 18[2d6+12] = 11+12 = 23[1d6] = 5[1d6] = 1[1d6] = 4
Autofire vs Adjacent Armed Spider: 20 to hit, 4 damage
(SMG Skill +2, vs Jack +6, Advantageous Dex +2, Medium range +3, Secondary target -3 = +9) [2d6+9] = 11+9 = 20[2d6+9] = 7+9 = 16[1d6] = 1[1d6] = 2[1d6] = 1
Autofire vs Adjacent Unarmed Spider: 15 to hit, 8 damage
(SMG Skill +2, vs Jack +6, Advantageous Dex +2, Medium range +3, Secondary target -3, Target Evading -2 = +7) [2d6+7] = 8+7 = 15[2d6+7] = 4+7 = 11[1d6] = 3[1d6] = 3[1d6] = 2

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Grimaud shoots his SMG: +2 dex, +1 skill, short/med range+3, jack armour +5, -2 evading = +9

Damage 3d6-3

He uses autofire for two bursts at the unarmed evading creature.

He can't miss.

First shot: [2d6+9] = 5+9 = 14
Second shot: [2d6+9] = 7+9 = 16

Check for Group Hits on non evading targets (the two armed creatures):

First creature: [2d6+8] = 7+8 = 15
Second creature: [2d6+8] = 6+8 = 14

Damage to unarmed creature from first burst: [3d6-3] = 14-3 = 11
Damage to unarmed creature from second burst: [3d6-3] = 10-3 = 7
Damage to first armed creature group hit: [3d6-3] = 13-3 = 10
Damage to second armed creature group hit: [3d6-3] = 10-3 = 7


Although it may be academic Foix's initial target was hit by two autofire bursts so has additional damage from the second one (Roll(3d6)+0: 4,1,4,+0 Total:9). You may have already covered this with "it goes down and takes more wounds".
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Ana groans from her position at the rear, “You couldn’t have just asked politely instead of starting the conversation with shooting?”

She quickly inventories the spare magazines for her SMG and rifle before checking Sara. “Angry end towards the spiders.”

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Foix replies grimly "They are hostile, heavily armed and I don't speak spider!"

As Ana readies her weapon Foix grins and says "I believe this will be one of those shabby non exclusive fire fights where they just let anybody join in. Don't feel you have wait for an invitation!"

Having fired a burst he adds "Fortunately the spiders seem to understand "bullet"!"
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I think a bunch of spiders are dead... I'll have to tally damage later.

In the future, I really need the individual d6 rolls for damage, after the first WOUND (not the first ROUND/TURN), the target gets to distribute the dice rolls (and you can piss off a 6 on a stat you only have 1 point left in to minimize damage...).

Of course we have two incoming Laser rifle shots on the PCs...
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ffilz wrote:Of course we have two incoming Laser rifle shots on the PCs...
That's what frontliners are for ;)

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OOC: Certainly not - we are far too pretty! Forward minions! Forward! ;) :)
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Ok, you are all in Vacc Suits which count as Cloth armor.

Laser Carbine is +1 for medium range, +1 vs cloth, they have skill-2 and +2 for DEX for a total of +6 (they can't miss)

1st one against Foix: Spider Laser Carbine [2d6+6] = 3+6 = 9
Spider Laser Carbine Damage [4d6] = 12 Against [1d3] = 2 DEX
Foix goes down and has 2 damage to assign

2nd one against Taheri Spider Laser Carbine [2d6+6] = 5+6 = 11
Spider Laser Carbine Damage [4d6] = 9 Against [1d3] = 3 END
Amazingly Taheri staggers in shock but is still conscious.

Grimaud's shot drops an unarmed spider, the two armed spiders are probably dead.

Taheri should take a Laser Rifle shot (probably at an unarmed one... +2 DEX, +1 Range, +2 Jack) and that's it for PC fire.

For morale, I'm going to assume Taheri's shot burns one (or that really Nathan should have shot at an unarmed one...)

Morale (-2 leader down, -2 >50% casualties, they don't get the +1 for military unit... only the leader's qualify and they're down) Spider Morale [2d6-4] = 7-4 = 3 vs 7+

The remaining spiders flee.
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ffilz wrote:Foix goes down and has 2 damage to assign.
"Gauvain!" Vee holsters her pistol, rushes to Foix's side, and drags him out into the hallway. She immediately performs a triage on him to see how serious his injuries are.
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joertexas wrote:
ffilz wrote:Foix goes down and has 2 damage to assign.
"Gauvain!" Vee holsters her pistol, rushes to Foix's side, and drags him out into the hallway. She immediately performs a triage on him to see how serious his injuries are.
Just one stat to zero and 2 points to another.
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ffilz wrote:
joertexas wrote:
ffilz wrote:Foix goes down and has 2 damage to assign.
"Gauvain!" Vee holsters her pistol, rushes to Foix's side, and drags him out into the hallway. She immediately performs a triage on him to see how serious his injuries are.
Just one stat to zero and 2 points to another.
Well, that sucks, no matter which stat it is. Also, is the medical tech advanced to the point of using nanotechnology?

Vee unlimbers her medical kit and works to stabilize Foix's injuries. She injects a fast-acting agent to kickstart his healing process, and monitors his vital signs in case more intervention is needed. "I've got him," she says to the others. "Go get the scouts, and try to not get shot."
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Vee looks up into the anxious face of Grimaud who appears greatly relieved at her update on Foix's condition. Understanding that now is the safest time to move after the fleeing enemy he cautiously enters the spider's room and makes his way to where he can see/put covering fire into the next room (where the scouts where supposed to be?)

(OOC: We did have a map - if needed.

From what I gather Classic Traveller stats work like abstract Hit Points with the reduction of individual characteristics to zero being the break points for light, serious wounds and death. With one stat (worth of "HP") reduced to zero Foix is KO'd for ten minutes unless treated but has otherwise got away with a "light wound". I'd guess something like loads of blunt force trauma, minor flashburns and/or maybe the odd cracked rib but no penetrating wounds/deep trauma).
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