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I play a weekly (Saturday Evening) 2nd edition Greyhawk game.

My Svirfneblin 8th level Earth Elementalist lost her right hand due to bad luck and

I won't get into that, as s**t happens in a game, right?

One pc has loaned her a very nice ring of regeneration so she can regrow her hand which is fortuitous

I've been informed it will take 1 week in game time to regrow her hand.

As weapons she can throw darts or, she can cast Dimension Door 4x a day. None of

her other spells are just Vocal.

She has a Stone of Controlling/Summoning Earth Elementals but that won't really help.

Is there a spell that allows a Mage to be able to cast spells with Materials and Vocal only so

if this ever happened again , *knock on wood*, she would be prepared.

I know there is a vocalize spell for when the mage has no voice/or can't speak.
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tarlyn wrote:I know there is a vocalize spell for when the mage has no voice/or can't speak.
Interesting. That spell isn't listed in any of the core rulebooks for 2e, but I did find it in the The Complete Wizard's Handbook. Interesting spell.
tarlyn wrote:Is there a spell that allows a Mage to be able to cast spells with Materials and Vocal only so

if this ever happened again , *knock on wood*, she would be prepared.
Not that I'm aware of, no. However, and every DM is able to interpret how to hand that sort of situation however they like, but a spell caster should still be able to satisfy the somatic component with only one hand (so long as their one available hand is "open" and not being otherwise used to carry or handle anything).

I didn't find a specific rule that states that only one hand is required in either the 1e or 2e books (though, there are general passages that mention "hand" (singular) as opposed to "hands" plural in both editions. In 5e (I know, I know) the rule is clear:
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Spellcasting gestures might include a forceful gesticulation or an intricate set of gestures. If a spell requires a somatic component, the caster must have free use of at least one hand to perform these gestures.
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Oh, I also found a non-weapon proficiency in the Dark Sun campaign setting called Somatic Concealment, which, while not Forgotten Realms, is an interesting idea that could potentially be house-ruled into your game.
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I agree in that I think it should most likely just be a DM ruling (for 2e and earlier). I try to stay in the spirit of a good time and would just rule you can use your other hand unless the spell specifically mentions 2 hands (Burning Hands comes to mind).

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As far as I know most spells don't require the use of both hands some do as Rex points out Burning Hands. Dave made very excellent points as well. Off the top of my head I cannot say now long it would or should take the hand to regrow using the regenerative ring that appears to be a DMs call I suppose. In the past DMs I had just simple had the thing regrow over the course of a 1-2 days sort of like Deadpool. Others have worked it more along the lines of how a Troll regenerates.
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Also, one week "in game time" could really take a few minutes, depending on what you and the party are doing.
Of course if you are in dungeon (which I'm guessing is where you are :) ) and no ability to rest up, then I like the suggestions above.
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I thank you all for your prompt replies and advice and or information. I don't really mind not being able to cast spells.

I am going to find other ways to make her useful. And yes, we are in a deceased(we hope) Wizard's tower, looking for

a tome for another Wizard, so insanity and hilarity will ensue, not counting surprises galore!
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Is there an illusion that you can use to create a spectral hand that has substance and can be used for casting?
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You may not even need any hands for most spells. Unless it calls out something specific like Burning Hands, there really is no guidance for what the somatic component is. Knock could be pantomiming knocking on a door, Enlarge could be holding your hands/stumps together and spreading your arms wide to indicate something getting larger, Fly could be flapping your arms like a bird, etc. With no hands, material components would be difficult, but the character does have one hand. What you really need to do is just find the Hand of Vecna, and you'll instantly have the ability to count past five again!
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Scott308 wrote:You may not even need any hands for most spells. Unless it calls out something specific like Burning Hands, there really is no guidance for what the somatic component is. Knock could be pantomiming knocking on a door, Enlarge could be holding your hands/stumps together and spreading your arms wide to indicate something getting larger, Fly could be flapping your arms like a bird, etc. With no hands, material components would be difficult, but the character does have one hand. What you really need to do is just find the Hand of Vecna, and you'll instantly have the ability to count past five again!
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