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PostPosted: Thu Oct 05, 2017 1:05 pm 
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Zhym wrote:
There aren't any magic users available, PC or NPC, are there?


Where would you look for NPC magic users? Do you have a Friendly relation there? You can always try to generate one from an NPC group.


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PostPosted: Thu Oct 05, 2017 1:30 pm 
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The only place I'm aware of that might have NPC magic users is Pierpont's Tower at Frogmorton Ford. Is there somewhere I'm overlooking? I looked at all the settlement subforums.


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Pierpont is a solitary wizard, unfortunately.

I'm open to the idea of classed individuals existing in other appropriate groups. Clerics and Fighters have both been recruited from the churches. Thieves have been recruited from the Town Guard. Dwarves from Idmi d’dum.

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Other groups require improvement of disposition to reach Friendly, but offer other benefits. Recruiting from the Lumbermen allows bowmen and longbowmen with high dexterity. Recruiting from the churches allows clerics as retainers (no hirelings). Recruiting from the Knights, Rangers, Reapers, or Templars requires being a member but allows recruiting of others as retainers (class options negotiable).


Looking specifically for Magic Users, I'd say your best option would be among the Templars. IC actions have incentivized magic users among their ranks and it is feasible you could find one. The Reapers actively oppose Magic Users. It would also be possible to find Magic Users among the "squires" of the Knights of Baudh, but that would have a penalty, as its less likely.

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Cultural Views of Magic

  • The previous world ended in magical cataclysm, and displays of powerful magic make most normal people uneasy or outright fearful.
  • Magic is inherent in the world and naturally occurs when souls impact on places and things; most people have seen this low-intensity magic and regard it as normal.
  • Magic Users are considered "willworkers," able to use the same principles and their own potent soul to impose more powerful impacts on the world.
  • Demonology allows impacts on the world through the channeling of extraplanar energy through one's soul, but is tainted to evil by the nature of that energy. Infernal influence is "easy power" for the seduceable and desperate and commonly feared by the population.
  • Gwanwen, who governs the natural balance, defines willworking itself as unnatural and unbalanced. Rural communities therefore often conflate Magic Users and the Infernal as "witches," dealing with them similarly.
  • Baudh, who governs power and law, differentiates and supports willworking Magic Users who use their considerable discipline for the cause of order. Thus, codified Schools of Magic exist in urban settings.
  • Eruanna, who governs truth and mercy, is the tireless foe of all things infernal as they are diametrically opposed to her domain. She differentiates and supports willworking Magic Users who act with their own souls for the cause of good.
  • Elves, by virtue of their innate magic and their attunement to nature itself, generally do not consider their actions to be "willworking" but instead as a natural extension of harmony with the laws of the world. Using magic against the cause of harmony or nature is considered abhorrent among elven culture as a result.


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So we could recruit MUs at the Infirmary of Eruanna, or at the Chapel of Baudh at a penalty?

Sort of odd that the churches would be a primary source of NPC magic users. But it's not as if Gaul has a wizard tower or suchlike.


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True, but church help is restricted more by purpose than by class. You could get a Templar MU, but your expedition needs to appeal to Templars and you need to earn their trust and interest (Friendly status).

It WOULD be much easier with a Wizard Order, but this is a sandbox. Someone needs to take interest and build towards it.


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Well, if my wizard comes back rich, maybe he will. ;)

Another small irony: Gwanwen's church is the one most likely to want to deal with an old tomb full of undead, but it's also not keen on magic users.


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But man, if you want some guys to indiscriminately take out the red-robed Order of Monoc...


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We may not be in great need of an MU anyway. The ability to cast sleep is of limited utility in a tomb full of the undead.


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Marullus wrote:
...It makes Clay Weatherwax's accusation of Foxy regarding the infernal seem so simple, by comparison. ;)


Hahahaha. Throwing stones in glass houses, are we?

Hey, Bandy didn't accuse anyone of anything. He just told the truth. And he ISN'T thieving. If he was, the party would have never heard a peep about the adamantine bracelet or the armband. And you wouldn't have been the wiser.

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I can't tell if you guys are really fighting or laughing your asses off! :D

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I can't tell if you guys are really fighting or laughing your asses off! :D


It depends on how the trial verdict goes...

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Bluehorse wrote:
I can't tell if you guys are really fighting or laughing your asses off! :D


It depends on how the trial verdict goes...

:lol: :lol: :lol:
Bremen has defied death enough times that something is due. And he did just sell his soul and probably release a demon. So getting locked up or sent on a penitence mission would be okay, though I am curious to see where his story leads him. I am hoping he grows and is able to right his wrongs. Probably not, though.


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I was thinking we might discover that Bremen's possessed. It's going to be disappointing if it turns out he's just like that. :D


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Rusty Tincanne wrote:
... So getting locked up or sent on a penitence mission would be okay,... I am hoping he grows and is able to right his wrongs..


See. that is all Markd was hoping for, to help his friend find his way through the straight and narrow. Just work out a plea deal and be done with the drama :)

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Yeah. Bremen is just like that.

And I said I want to seem him grow. Bremen, on the other hand, is convinced he is right. And even if he isn't right, he is in the right. He's just like that.


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With any luck, maybe the Church of Baudh can apply an attitude adjustment.


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PostPosted: Fri Oct 06, 2017 1:24 pm 
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Zhym wrote:
With any luck, maybe the Church of Baudh can apply an attitude adjustment.

Nah. Have you ever met any of them? They are all like that. It's all "We're right because we're in charge and stronger, so you owe us gold. And you owe us gold because you want to be healthy." Bunch of jerks, really. Even that specter in the Tower was insufferable.


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Like they're any better than the church of animal and human sacrifices or the church of Truth. :P


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Rusty Tincanne wrote:
Nah. Have you ever met any of them? They are all like that. It's all "We're right because we're in charge and stronger, so you owe us gold. And you owe us gold because you want to be healthy." Bunch of jerks, really. Even that specter in the Tower was insufferable.




oooohhh. Thought Police!!! Thought Police!!!.... Citizen's Arrest. Citizen's Arrest!!!!!!!!

See, he is evil!!!!

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And yet to account for the 'mercy' killing of Brother Kellstrom.


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